Reply from Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery as a result of open letter
Posted by By GeorgeM at 28 September, at 17 : 38 PM Print
cc: montgomw@mcao.maricopa.gov, info@montgomery2012.com
9-28-12
Mr. Montgomery:
It seems like you are being deliberately obtuse.
1. Why would we have to prove that AKA “Obama” is not a US citizen for you to move on felony fraud charges? It is established beyond reasonable doubt by Maricopa County Sheriff’s Dept. and other entities that the electronic “birth certificate” image Obama is using is a very badly produced forgery. That’s a felony in itself. Why are we even debating this? Obama is perpetrating this fraud on Maricopa County (as well as everywhere else) residents, is he not?
If someone was selling stolen merchandise in Maricopa county, would it matter that the goods were first stolen elsewhere? No, you would be required by law to act upon it, just as you are now for “Obama.” Why don’t you start with that, which would lead to discovery and unraveling some of the other mysteries of the fraud who calls himself “Obama?”
2. Isn’t it true that Obama failed to prove his eligibility when challenged and that SOS Bennett accepted incomplete and inadequate evidence? In any case, even if he was born in HI as “Barack Hussein Obama, on Aug. 4, 1961 (which HI failed to confirm), which looks increasingly unlikely, his father was admittedly a foreigner, meaning that Obama is not natural born, according to established precedent, repeatedly upheld by the Supreme Court.
-George Miller
—–Original Message—–
From: Brian Reilly <reillyfam@msn.com>
To: Brian and Denise Reilly <reillyfam@msn.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 9:51 am
Subject: Reply from Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery
Dear Mr. Reilly,
Thank you for taking the time to write and for the concerns you have expressed. There are a couple of points of analysis, though, in determining whether a criminal charge can be filed, regardless of the charge or who the suspect might be. The first is whether I have jurisdiction over the case. That requires that some conduct had to have occurred in Maricopa County for me to have jurisdiction. From the Sheriff?s Office investigation into suspect documents produced by the White House to date, that investigation has not revealed any evidence that conduct occurred in Maricopa County. I have discussed this with the Sheriff. As for any issues regarding qualifications or information provided regarding the Presidential Election itself, that is a statewide election. Under Arizona law, the Secretary of State and the Attorney General have jurisdiction over statewide elections. I do not.
I will share with you, as well, that the criminal statute you cited in your message requires additional evidence that the MCSO investigation to date has not uncovered. Specifically, we would need evidence to affirmatively prove that Mr. Obama is not a US citizen. To date, there has been evidence presented leading to speculation that documents have been forged and other documents do not exist. That alone, though, is not sufficient evidence to present to a grand jury and actually have a reasonable likelihood of conviction. I cannot speak for other prosecutors at the state level around the rest of the country or for prosecutors at the federal level but Arizona?s ethics rules do not permit prosecutors to file a charge they can only hope to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt at a later stage.
I stand ready and willing, however, to review any case submitted for charges and, if the evidence is there, I will prosecute regardless of who the suspect/defendant may be.
Sincerely,
Bill Montgomery
Maricopa County Attorney
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An open letter to Maricopa County Attorney, Bill Montgomery:
Montgomery’s agonizing about where the scene of the crime was gives me another idea. Does the phony B/C on whitehouse.gov violate federal “wire fraud” law?
GeorgeM, 7 months ago
Everything this felony fraud puts an illegal pen to violates the constitution.
PeoplePower, 7 months ago
Obama is not on the ballot in MC? If he is then the citizens of MC have been injured and the attorney needs to move.
Zeb Blanchard, 7 months ago
Amen, Bro Blanchard.
GeorgeM, 7 months ago
George,
I hope this ballot challenge effort doesn’t deteriorate into an harassment exercise.
It may be time to reexamine the original intent of these efforts. As Attorney Montgomery stated, with a decent chance of winning he would pursue anyone, regardless. To what outcome, though? To get to Obama’s involvement, how many layers of sycophants would have to be peeled off and disposed of? What would conviction on any charge actually accomplish. We can’t put the country on hold until the President serves out his sentence, if it got that far. These charges may constitute ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’, which precipitate impeachment proceedings… and that has what sort of chance of succeeding… a snowball … where?
Where is the authority to disqualify, let alone remove, a President for criminal behavior? It would appear that even a felony record would not disqualify…only failure in those requirements in the Constitution should disqualify, of they can ever get drilled down to.
The voters are supposed to reject bad character or behavior, not laws. The Founders may have been smart enough to not presume to understand the extent of mischief that men of the future may become capable of. Attempting to prevent the horror of subversive intent through a citizenship requirement apparently seemed clear enough that they need not further define it, but…”hows that workin’ out now, boys?”
I still contend that there is only one remedy for this malady…a quick and relatively painless excision of the wart through a court action in the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. It has jurisdiction, and approval by the Congress, since they wrote the laws for DC at the instructions in the Constitution to do so.
It also has some hurdles, but what have all those previous disappointments in the various states been, if not hurdles?
Maybe the time is ripe to convene a “summit” of legal minds to formulate a plan of approach? The “popular” approach has so far seemed to lack the horsepower to get out of the parking lot. Logic and common sense seem to only reach so far.
Pete Bennett, 7 months ago
1. DC Quo Warranto has already been attempted. You must have missed that movie.
2. You don’t think that credible charges of felony fraud would affect Obama’s national polling?
3. It’s obvious from his response that Montgomery is barking up the wrong tree, either through ignorance or willful disregard of Obama’s crimes. As I stated, fraud charges leading to discovery would be an ideal way to start unraveling Obama’s story– in court. If prosecutors, attorney-generals, et al won’t, it will have to be done in The People’s Court- here and on thousands of blogs, reader comments, emails, Twitter, Facebook – WHATEVER IT TAKES. Are you in or not?
4. There are still multiple ways to challenge the candidacy and election results.
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GeorgeM, 7 months ago
From Brian Relly …
—– Original Message —–
From: Brian Reilly
To: Montgomery Bill
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Reply from Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery
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Mr. Montgomery:
Regarding the following question and your reply:
In any case, even if he was born in HI as “Barack Hussein Obama, on Aug. 4, 1961 (which HI failed to confirm), which looks increasingly unlikely, his father was admittedly a foreigner, meaning that Obama is not natural born, according to established precedent, repeatedly upheld by the Supreme Court. You will have to provide me with the precedent you are referring to. Regardless of his father’s status, or that of illegal aliens in Arizona, children born in the United States are considered citizens. In fact, the ability of a child born to illegal aliens to be a citizen under the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the 14th Amendment has been the subject of intense debate as to how that approach can be changed. But, until it is changed, that Is the law.
(Brian’s response)
A “citizen” is not necessarily a “natural born citizen.” A “natural born citizen” is born of two citizen parents. A “naturalized citizen” has all of the same rights as a “citizen,” except for the ability to run for the office of VP or President. As far back as 1952, the past President of the American Bar Association, Frank. E. Holman made a clear distinction between a “natural born citizen” and a “naturalized citizen” when he wrote:
“For example, our Federal Constitution now provides that nobody shall be elected to the office of President or Vice President except a “natural born citizen” of the United States. Already the [United Nations] Declaration of Human Rights (Article 21, Section 2) provides, “Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.” This would make Harry Bridges or any other naturalized citizen eligible to the office of President or Vice President.” Source: The Constitution and the Threat of “Treaty Law, ” Speech given at the Kiwanis International Convention, Civic Auditorium, Seattle, WA, June 18, 1952.
Mr. Holman’s concern was that international treaties originating with the United Nations could circumvent our Federal Constitution and change domestic law. He was working to amend the Federal Constitution to prevent the loss of our constitutional freedoms and safeguards.
Very clearly, back in 1952, even a Rhodes Scholar knew there was a distinction between a “natural born citizen,” a “citizen” and a “naturalized citizen.” Only a “natural born citizen” was qualified to run for VP and President according to our Constitution, Article II Section 1. This is what everyone over 60 was taught in public schools in our U.S. Government classes.
Frank Holman was a Senior Partner at, “Holman, Mickelwait, Marion, Black & Perkins, Seattle, WA. This firm eventually became “Perkins Coie,” the firm now representing President Barack Obama.
Also refer to Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 21 Wall.162(1874)
Eligibility is a secondary issue. Crimes that have been allegedly committed should be the thrust of any investigation by your office or the AZ AG in my opinion.
Thanks for your time.
Regards,
Brian Reilly
GeorgeM, 7 months ago
This is actually good news that he has answered back. I believe he needs to receive affidavits from Maricopa citizens stating that they downloaded the bc and believed Obama,s press conference when he stated it was his true bc.
Someone also should contact the sheriff and ask him what evidence the DA needs.
jd, 7 months ago
So, let me get this straight. If I submitted a forged colb claiming it is legitimate, a SS# from Connecticut that was originally issued to someone else, and then submitted a forged selective service registration you wouldn’t even look at the evidence until you determined that I was a US Citizen? And you’re an Attorney? You need to be fired or demand the money back that you spent on that education you received to become an “Attorney”. These artists of legalese spin just don’t know what the law is and how to determine if it’s being violated.
PeoplePower, 7 months ago
Is the Democrat Party of Maricopa County, the Arizona state Democrat Party, and the DNC not campaigning for this inelgible candidate in Maricopa County? If so, would that not be election fraud being committed in Maricopa County?
Michael Ferguson, 7 months ago
On March 1, 2012, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office held a formal press conference regarding their investigation into the identification documents of President Barack Hussein Obama II. At the press conference, it was announced that the MCSO had developed sufficient evidence to indicate that Mr. Obama’s Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth and his Selective Service System registration form were criminal forgeries. To say the least, the findings were shocking.
gold account, 7 months ago