URGENT ACTION ALERT: PLEASE DO BEFORE MONDAY OR AS EARLY ON MONDAY AS POSSIBLE:
Posted by By GeorgeM at 2 April, at 06 : 22 AM Print
Some say there is already adequate law to vet candidates, some say not.
URGENT ACTION ALERT! PLEASE DO RIGHT NOW! A Press Conference was held today by State Legislator Carl Seel to appeal to Arizona citizens to put pressure on Senate President Steve Pierce and Speaker of the House Andy Tobin to get the Candidate Eligibility bill HB2480 to the Rules Committee. The bill has been stalled by both Pierce and Tobin for almost two weeks now and according to Seel, “if not sent to the Rules Committee by Monday, it will be on life support because there will not be sufficient time to complete the process of passing it on a third read in both chambers.”
THEREFORE, HERE ARE THE CONTACT NUMBERS AND PLEASE BURN THE LINES:
Pierce 602-926=5584 Phone 602-417-3224 Fax
Tobin 602-926-5172 Phone 602-417-3085 Fax
PLEASE RE-DISTRIBUTE THIS TO ALL OF YOUR OWN LISTS TO GET THIS OUT TO EVERYONE INTERESTED: If 2480 not in Rules Committee very soon, it’s game over for this bill. Thank you very much for any help you can provide to this effort. This will be the final request made to you in regard to this bill.
TOLL-FREE NUMBERS: 1(866)220-0044
1(877)762-8762
Apparently, according to the Arizona Statutes as available at the Arizona site online, there are no specific qualifications for either appearing on the ballot, or holding the office of President, in the State of Arizona. Just generic address, party affiliation, name of party chairman (?) and how, specifically, your name is to appear on the ballot.. I quote that part of the Arizona Statutes applicable to ballot appearance:
16-242. Qualifications for ballot; nomination paper
A. A person seeking nomination as a candidate for the office of president of the United States shall sign and cause to be filed with the secretary of state a nomination paper that contains the following information:
1. The name, residence address and mailing address of the candidate.
2. The name of the recognized political party from which the person seeks nomination.
3. The name and address of the chairman of the candidate’s state committee.
4. The exact manner for printing the candidate’s name on the presidential preference ballot pursuant to section 16-311.
There are other specifics like dates and procedural things not pertinent to qualifications.
Nor is there anything in the State Constitution regarding any state or US Constitution qualifications of a presidential candidate in Arizona elections.
Apparently, ANYTHING, OR BODY GOES, in the State of Arizona, as far as they seem to care. I could make one addition to those suggestions that would be a significant qualification:
5. Applicant must be able to fog a mirror.
Actually, the stuck in committee (since February 2011) HB2544 is a better attempt to present an effective application than the current effort (sorry, Mr Seel ). But it could be improved by specifying the definition of natural born citizen, instead of leaving it for others to define. Better yet, just start over and make it on the order of New Hampshire, or Missouri (PROVIDED there is no attempt to redefine nbC, as they have). There is no reason to pussy-foot around the qualifications as set forth in the US Constitution. That, too, has already been tried here in AZ. (SB 1308, Feb, 2011)
How anyone could successfully mount a challenge to any candidate in AZ is beyond my scope of understanding. Who could fail to qualify for Arizona ballot admission?. The enforceable qualifications for admission are the only ‘facts’ that the candidate MUST meet, or that can disqualify one if not met.
Sadly the proposed Senate Bill 2480 is not much better than what we have. Perjury is no threat if there is no way to prove an application was a false statement. Even if the US Constitutional requirements were printed on the application for appearance on the ballot, above the signature line, what provisions are there to prove the applicant fails to meet them? There is no birth certificate (or satisfactory substitute), or proof of parental citizenship required, which is required for proof of natural born citizenship.
An affidavit of eligibility is a worthless assurance of eligibility, as has been proven in at least half of the states in 2008.
It is beginning to become apparent that Arizona must NOT wish to strengthen it’s Presidential primary requirements, to even begin to fall in line with federal Constitutional requirements, as simple as they are. One recent bill vetoed (deservedly !), one languishing in committee for over a year, and another headed there apparently, or at least until it is too late to effect an change this election cycle.
I hope the Copper State isn’t starting to turn green from oxidation, rather than politically.
Peter Bennett, 1 year ago
HAWAII REPORTER: GOV ABERCOMBIE MAY HAVE BEEN THE OBAMA B.C. FORGER
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/atomic-monkey-did-governor-abercrombie-fake-obamas-birth-certificate/123
Bloodless Coup, 1 year ago
I am starting to wonder when Sheriff Joe is going to name persons of interest in his investigation and when he is going to start to bring some of them in for questioning.
This ‘trail by press conference’ thing might help to keep Obama from getting re-elected but it does nothing to bring the guilty to justice.
Could it be that Arpaio just doesn’t know who forged these documents?
Why does it matter anyway?
It is Obama and his co-conspirators who have presented these fake documents to the American People. They are the ones who have made false statements about these documents authenticity. They are ones saying who are claiming that these documents are valid proof of Obama’s eligibility. That is called fraud.
If I buy something with counterfit money and I am arrested, the prosecution does not have to prove that I printed that money myself to put me in jail.
They only need to prove that I knew it was fake money, and that I tried to pass it off as real money to obtain goods and services. (mens rea and actus reus)
Why haven’t there been any arrests yet?
What’s the hold up folks?
Bloodless Coup, 1 year ago
Bloodless: Please do not cross post the same message all around our site. If you have something you think is of general interest to the readers, submit is as a proposed blog posting.
GeorgeM, 1 year ago
Please make the calls I got through to Senator Pierce’s Secretary who is writing up the request.to make the inquest. calling Sen Tobin now.
Kevin True, 1 year ago
I got through to Sen Tobin’s office ask that they see that HR2480 get to the Rules Committee.
Kevin True, 1 year ago
thank you!
GeorgeM, 1 year ago